After the resounding defeat to Fiorentina, Roberto Mancini spoke with Inter Channel as they analysed the match: “To find ourselves behind 2-0 after only a few minutes makes the game very difficult. I put Perisic in his role on the wing, but he was not able to push. We can’t talk of tactics, also because I changed a lot of them in the second half as we did not want to concede any more goals. These matches can happen in the course of a season, we mustn’t be elated or depressed. We need to understand what the problems are and how we could improve. The championship still has to settle, there are many squads close to us. It will be a tiring journey for all.”
Wooooow…..
Our wining streak had to end sometime. Props to the Viola who had a great game and we had some bad luck and did stupid mistakes. So now we need to learn from these mistakes, and fix the principle issues. Handa had a bad evening, but that being said, Medel shouldn’t have put him in that situation at the first goal. Our back line too often seem to end up getting scared of having the ball and to get rid of it, pass it back to Handa. Same thing is also done by the midfield now and then. Do they think Handa is our Regista?. What is he supposed to do with those back passes. Its a big problem, and one we also had last year and conceded goals because of it. IMO we are desperately in need of a Wesley Sneijder type Regista who can receive the ball from defense and who has the football intelligence to carry the ball forwards.
This is the missing piece of the puzzle, which would upgrade us from a good team to a great team, giving the proper creative support to our otherwise strong and agressive midfield. Even if you chose to consider Medel as a defender, you still have Melo, Kondogbia, Guarin, Gnoukouri and Brozo … but none of them will ever function as a Regista.
And please… no more three person defenses !!! (especially with Santon in the middle, he is lost in space away from his sideline)
We wasted two years with 3-5-2 and again we started the match 3-5-2… DO WE EVER LEARN FROM OUR FAILURES?
I agree with most of what u said a part from the trusting Mancini part. He is a great manager but a terrible tactician, it s not the first time that he does things like yesterday.
Anyways, he should settle for a more conservative formation and we can still aim for CL spots with him as a coach, but don’t except anything more.
Forza inter
based on our recent results from five giornatas, Mancio should know that:
1. Perisic is still adapting to Italian football. Playing him as trequartista is not a good
plan. We better play him as super sub to familiarize him with Serie A. His pace
could be lethal weapon for opponent’s defense. Ljajic or Biabiany is more familiar with Serie A. I better stick with Ljajic-Icardi-Jovetic for starter
2. Medel could be a good centre back. But you can’t rely on him constantly to pair
with another CB, especially when you have another CBs. Medel and Melo on
midfield will be great destroyers.
3. No Jovetic means no creativity and no fantasy.
4. We should rotate Santon and Telles with Montoya. Montoya
5. A derby hero can’t eliminate Guarin’s overall track record with Inter.
He’s still inconsistent and he plays very bad in terrible situation like this matchday.
It was a bad day at the office. Everything went wrong for Inter, even before the game started. I hope this will be Inter’s wake up call to work even harder. Let’s bounce back!
Football Manager addict detected :p
the funny things about some of people here are, if we win, we are lucky the player got the credit. if we loose, mancini got the blame.. let’s face it, our target from begining was top 3, so we should have expect a loose game like this.. and even if our target is scudetto we should know that shit like this happen some time.. just like mou said, “it’s easy to support the team when we win, but a real fan should support the team when we loose too, if not why should you call yourself a fan!? you better stop coming”. and i agree with mou.. FORZA INTER
That s not true man, even when we were winning, the football we produced was inconsistent and Mancini tactics were still bad.
I just question Mancini’s tactics because I feel that we don’t get the best of our squad, not to pointlessly blame Mancini.
give him time to find the chemistry of the team.. more than 70% of the team are new face, we need time.. he tried one or two things last night, and it didn’t work.. that’s all, but we should fokus on our main target, not just one match.. i’m sure we can learn a lot from this match.. it’s good to lose some time, to expose more of our weaknesses.. ^^
You’re right it’s just one game and we still have 15 points. I am just worried because Mancini is stubborn: It is probable that he will still play perisic as a trequartista or favor palacio over Ljajic….
Anyways, I hope that I’m wrong about him
yesterday he put perisic in the right wing position, but it didn’t work.. perisic was too busy to cover for santon in the right side.. we have too admit fiorentina was a better team last night.. let’s keep supporting the team.. they need our support more in difficult time.. that’s our role as a fan.. ^^
He tried him as a right defensive winger in a 3-5-2 with Santon in CD, which is really different from his preferred position, which is right attacking winger,
Of course we nees to show support but we also have the right to say what we didn’t like.
Anyways let s hope we ll bounce back next week
i understand mancini, because i believe he can play in that position too. i’ve seen perisic before, he can played everywhere in midfield and did it well.. the only explaination for his form, for me is he still try to learn italian football.. it’s okay to say and discuss about the tactic, but not bashing the coach like some people in this forum.. we win as a team we lose as a team.. let’s hope we’ll do better next match.. and achieve our main target as top 3..
because – and that is our biggest prob. – Santon isn’t good enough for Inter!
Some people just can’t handle an alternative opinion, no matter how well you argue your case.
Mate, you come across as a 13 year old One Direction fan-girl that can’t deal with any criticism of that piece of shit band.
As Mamoun said, many of us were critical despite the victories. We haven’t changed our opinions due to one loss.
You can be critical of a team and still be a fan.
criticism is good, but not bashing the team.. criticism is different from bashing.. i have no problem with criticism as long as you do it properly.. be a mature fan..
Very few are bashing, most are criticising. You can’t seem to distinguish the two. Saying that Mancini is a poor tactician is not bashing, it is criticism.
If anything, the fan boys on your side are the ones who bash (ie: Ranocchia, Guarin, Palacio, Hernanes, Brozovic, Nagatomo, or whoever the scapegoat of the week happens to be at the time). The bashing of our captain in particular has been shameful, but because it has been espoused by the mass of mindless fanboys, it is accepted.
my comment is for people who bashing the team.. don’t tell me you are blind that you can’t see some of people here always post a comment like fuck mancini, fuck guarin, fuck palacio!? is that sounds like a critic to you!?
While you are always logical to a point, I will never call ranocchia our captain. He simply lacks too much.
The problem is evident. Bad game from Handanovic, some dubious referring decisions in key moments – the beginning of the match and very poor tactics from Mancini for this game. Generally I like Mancini as a coach, but this match, he made really bad decisions.
If we exclude the evident errors of Handanovic and the referee on the penalty call and the bad luck – not having Jovetic and Murillo for this game, the errors in the tactical game are as follows:
1. Why we have decided to play 3 5 2 in this game ? Santon as a central defender and Perisic was supposed to defend on the right against Alonso ? Really ??? It’s a huge mistake. If we were scared of their wing play we could have tried 4 4 2 with santon + perisic on the right and juan + teles on the left. In addition of that 3 5 2 system is really risky against big teams and this is why no team has won CL with this formation. It s just useless to use it – it makes the defense vulnerable.
2. Palacio ? He is done. We have to understand that he can be useful only as a time waster. We could have deployed Ljajic with Perisic in 4 3 2 1 or 4 3 3. Even in 4 4 2 Ljajic could play upfront with Icardi.
3. Changing our formation for a match like this and then lose it 1 : 4 will have a huge impact on the team’s morale. It was a big gamble for Mancini – if it has worked for a certain period of time against Chievo, It is impossible to work against more quality players as they exploid the weaknesses of the team’s lack of experience/training and lack of knowledge for this shitty 3 5 2.
I am sure that Mancini will learn his errors and will adjust things fast and I still support Mancini as our coach. I am sure that he will have a great season. We will be in top 3, even more with a bit of luck.
Soon in Champions League!
Spot on mate
I think you have some good points there, but also we should consider to admit that Fiorentina also made the team look bad. They were absolute flawless and passed the ball like they were Barcelona at times. In my opinion we lost the match because we didn’t get the ball as our high (or whatever it was) pressure completely failed as there were no collective work to win the ball in midfield and Kondo, Melo and Gurain just kept running between the Viola-players. You can see that in many situations the Viola-player takes one turn and there’s two-three Inter-players that’s gone. Also there was too much space in front of our box for Ilicic and Valero to run behind in. An lastly hour defense really has tempo issues. Higuain would destroy us.
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I applaude you for actually knowing how to criticise without sounding like a 12 year old. 100% spot on.
Ehh.. Santon was playing in the middle when Miranda (and our ONLY true central defender on the pitch got send off), we needed Melo in midfield and Medel infront of the defense in the 2. half and therefor Ranno was playing there with Santon. Perisic has acually played as a full back before so in the need of other solutions (Juan was injured remember, and D’ambrossio was in the scuad) he keept Perisic on the field and didn’t wast a sup on brinning on another fullback!
We played 3-5-1 because we were one man down and had to close the hole, as Mancini said!
BTW; Guardiola playes a kind of 3-5-2 with a defensive midfielder in the middle of the defense (could be Medel) who’s role it is to bring the ball forward, and he has done quite well right?
Mancini is a 4 -at the back guy but the game was ruined by “Badmanovic” – not by tactics or anything else…
I couldn’t watch the match to be honest for my own reasons but you made some excellent points particularly the palacio issue and the lack of utilising ljajic against his old team- which should be a huge advantage for inter as he knows them well.
well, when you play with defensive midfielders = Icardi alone, also i have no idea what was Palacio role in this formation !!!, then again you say persic played on wing realy??? , hhhhh, he was defending and covering Santon who is slow, you arrange it this way, you were scared of fiorentina, you wished to get a goal out of nothing, why not play ljajic in Jovetic place , you said he can play in his position.
today shows how limited Mancini can be.
to utilize the wings you need to occupy the middle with dangerous attacking players that can cause threat then you have the wings cleared, you had Zero attacking midfielder, its clear your plan was to defend to maintain league lead, terrible choice, you should have tested 4-3-3 not 5-3-1 ( – palacio he was all over the place).
never trusted Mancini never will, he reminds me of that season with draw streak.
yes..you are plastic fan.
Why would you call someone a plastic fan for having different opinion then yours. Grow up
And you’re a mindless fanboy. He made a genuine, well-though out argument. Reply in kind or shut the fuck up.
I saw your point and get it straight away, actually Mancio was a little obssesed with the upcoming sixth winning game and he wanted a very fast goal and I admit it too but when u say never trust Mancio I am against it, he is a very better and more experienced coach than last time he was with us, I will support him as much as I can plus dont forget Man City and even Barca have lost 4-1 to their opponents this week too! So it is quite understandable when players dont play their regular games what can a coach do? When Handa plays like he is playing with his causins in a yard what can Mancio do?? We are on the right track and what is the only important thing now is to react fast and powerfull, period
Problem is lack of focus today and starting palacio… reay mancini… palacio…
Everyone have to give 100% not only Medel and Melo… We need to fight for the ball like if its the last time in your life that you have the chance to win it and you have to run like if its the last min in your life! Now fall hard and come back against Sampdoria! Forza Inter!
I didnt watch the match and couldnt believe my eyes seeing this iter has this score and statistic. I think we start the match with a wrong foot, and didnt have the time and mental to fight back especially after double mistakes from handa. Besides, fio seemed perform perfectly.. what a terrible night. We are young. I hope they can actually learn from this match, and keep moving forward. I had the feeling it will go like this, when I saw man.city’s score against spurs wkwk idk why.