Gary Medel will not be moving to Sevilla in January as is evident to our partners at FcInterNews.it, who have probed sources close to the player.
The Chilean will stay at Inter because this is his will, as he signed a contract until June 2018 but also because the club and Mancini consider him as a major part of the Inter project.
In short, as mentioned in the Summer, the player is and remains untouchable.
Source: FcInterNews.it
Everyone read this: https://sempreinter.com/2015/06/02/serie-a-20142015-medel-leads-the-league-in/
You’ve ignorantly posted this 3 times as if it is a nail in the coffin for my argument. If you knew anything about statistics, you’d understand that any statistic in isolation, without proper interpretation, is completely meaningless. Nowhere is this principle more applicable than in this situation.
Medel’s passing completion rate is grossly inflated by the conservative nature of his passes. He usually collects the ball under no pressure (since the opposition are aware of his limitations), has endless time to distribute the ball, and makes a short pass to an unmarked man. Often, they are easy forward passes as our gameplan was based on the more advanced midfielders pushing back to receive the ball in space from Medel. An amatuer footballers could complete these passes and would share Medel’s high pass completion rate.
The author in that article did offer some shallow interpretation of the
stat in context, but again failed to appreciate the actual relevance of
that forward pass statistic.
In short: high passing statistic metrics don’t necessarily translate to a quality passer of the ball. This is true in this case.
Chill ppl, it’s just a mean to drive his price up. He’s important to the team for sure, but everybody has a price. If we sell, we’ve to sell at an inflated price, unlike the prices of Kova and Shaqiri. Should’ve at least gotten a combined total of 15 mil more for the both of them.
15m!? we got 35m from kova deal my friend..^^
Read again, and more carefully this time. I think you’ll get what I mean. Those prices were too low. The whole world is so big on ‘selling on potential’ and over-hyping players.Yet, we lost the plot and did the opposite
35 m plus bonus is already overprice.. kova has potential but never live up to the expectation.. i read again you comment maybe you mean from both of them not for both of them..^^
Yeah, from the both of them. But to be fair, the usage of either from or for wouldn’t have changed the meaning. It would still mean both and not each of them. And as I said, a combined total.
Who cares if he lives up to it, if his projected improvement is worth a certain amount, that’s what we should be charging. Do we know if Sterling is gonna be live up to that price? No. This is what I meant by paying for potential.
35 mil is a reflection of our lack of faith in Kova. A bad trait, a sign of weakness in the transfer market, and we got exploited for it. Shaqiri for 12 mil pounds? That’s just an insult. Robbie Brady costed 10.
we’re not overprice BPL team, and we need money to build this team.. so 35m is too good to reject.. i’m sure we can have him back in 1 or 2 years from now with just 10-15 m, if we need too.. ^^
That’s the thing, we should stop selling players below their prices. I’ll bring you back to my initial comment: our board is doing great by saying Medel is untouchable. If we’re to sell him now, it’s not gonna be a bargain for the other team. Unlike in cases of Shaqiri and Kova.
okay. in that case i agree with you mate..but shaqiri and kova is a winning deal to me.. ^^
It is a crucial deal, but we could’ve gotten more
We got good money for Kova. Can’t compare it to Sterling, same nationality will drive the price up even more and Sterling was a regular starter at a better team than Inter, Kova was struggling at a mid table Inter team.
All of you who watch football just to see flashy tricks and dribbles should go and watch circus instead of Calcio.
Without defensive midfielder like he is, or third central back, a team gets destroyed from counter attacks. And the reason why he isn’t dribbling or creating chances is because if he loses the ball our defense is totally exposed and outnumbered in like 3 seconds. People never pay enough attention to off the ball movement, work rate and positioning of the players, which is something Medel is great at. Makelele is a great example of underrated player and hard worker that wasn’t attractive enough for a big club.
Well said, mate ^^b
well said.. and mourinho was interested to sign medel too, when he coach madrid.. maybe some genius here smarter than mou and mancini..^^
and we have motta in treble team 🙂
Such a shallow generalisation. People can appreciate Calcio and still criticise the performance of a DM. I for one despise flashy, superficial football but am also critical of Medel’s performing of his role.
For a team with 4 at the back, reinforced by Medel, who performs as limited, one dimensional role, we were noticeably susceptible to quick counters last year.
I posted this below, and I hate to quote myself, but it addreses your comparison of Medel to Makelele, and I can’t be bothered repeating myself.
The Makele-role was engineered over a decade ago, for a team in the
unique position of being filled with superstars, and in that case, it
was successful. We however, do not have that luxury, and in the decade
passed, the Makele-role has evolved dramatically. Such a player must now be able to hold the ball in possession, construct play from deep and
control the tempo of the game. It is consequently among the more
difficult roles on the field, and requires the talents of Matic,
Busquets, Martinez, etc. to perform to expectation.
Medel is suited to a mid-table team which lacks cohesion and requires a stop-gap measure to provide some structure and solidity to the midfield. For a quality side, with an able coach, his role is redundant.
Nobody is discounting the value of defensive midfielders, what we contest is Medel’s supposed efficacy in establishing the defensive quality of the team.
you represent me. so many of these people around who just spew crap and to me(an avid football fan) makes me cringe
Don’t think you know him well enough. https://sempreinter.com/2015/06/02/serie-a-20142015-medel-leads-the-league-in/
your statement it’s so bad, (don’t get me wrong i respect your opinion) but can’t agree with it-
Football sometimes change, oftenly does not require special abilities so players like the Pitbull are important- but what did we win with this guy??? 8th place in Serie A… this was a wake up call for our management!
Medel untouchable? So Sniejder, Coutinho, Kovacic, etc. (ie. real footballers) are surplus?
This is why we have been mediocre for so long now. Since Mourinho, has an Inter team played with identity, or with fluidity? Post-Mourinho, coaches have been hopelessly unable to utilise talented players in any capacity. Players like Medel, Melo, etc., any average coach can extract their best from. They see ball, chase ball, tackle ball, always giving 100%. They are stop-gap measures for coaches without ideas (at least in our case they are). On the other-hand, It takes a genuine tactician to utilise techical players in the construction of creative, effective football. There is a reason so many talents have arrived at Inter only to depart a shadow of their former selves.
If Mancini is worth his salary, he will sell Medel, play Melo if his formation demands it, and find a way to utilise the few talents we have left. Selling Kova and Hernanes for industrious types like Melo and Perisic suggests however that he is no thinker, and I expect another season of lifeless, expressionless football.
Can only hope that Handanovic and the skill of Jovetic/Icardi carries the team to a champions league spot.
you’re smarter than mourinho and mancini because both of the coach want him and see his value for the team.. they (mourinho and mancini) must be idiot..
Mancini also wanted Shaqiri and Podolski, and saw their value. How has that turned out 6 months down the track?
Try thinking for yourself.
look.. shaqiri and podolski surely talented players.. but sadly they fail to settle in serie A.. medel in other hand already settle and gave us the balance that we need.. okay i don’t want to OOT, i’ll stick to medel.. why we shoud not sell him at least for now:
1. he is the destroyer that we need in order to protect our midfield, because mancini want kondogbia to play more offensive role.
2. he is very versatille player, in case our CB got injured and we need an instant replacement, you can use him as CB too..
come on you like it or not we need medel in our team now…
face it kova never reallly important for us.. get over it..
It’s easy to write off players as having ‘failed to adapt to Itailian football’, but that is an excuse for avoiding proper analysis. But hey, way to dodge a question.
What balance? We were deplorable defensively last year and were unable to bring the ball forward with any purpose. Sure Medel disrupted the odd counter attack, but I’d rather a well balanced midfield defending as a unit to limit the potency of opposition transitions. Again, Medel is a stop-gap solution that gives the impression of achieving midfield balance, but in reality, his one-dimensional role contributes to this lack of cohesion.
I keep hearing that Medel is ‘versatile’, that he can play CB. Nonsense. South America is not Serie A. We will never again play a back 3 (hopefully) and in a 2-man CB pairing, Medel will not cut it. There is a reason we haven’t seen it happen in the past few years despite all the issues at CB
Btw, we do have suitable replacements at CB now. Ranocchia and JJ are more than adequate coverage for a team with no Europe. I know Ranocchia is a whipping-boy round here, and one must never buck the trend, but to argue that Medel is ahead of Rano as a CB is nothing short of moronic.
do you think melo is able to bring that balance?
lol last year will be more worse if no medel in the team.. rano and juan is a nightmare..
defending starts from the strikers downwards. our first line defense is icardi. i truly think juan and rano should be judged when our team is at strongest. having guarin and kovacic in front of them last season was a bitch. i was impressed with rano’s NT form. defending is a team effort.
right defending is a team effort.. if you seach my comment last season, i was one of the guy that said that too.. but we can’t deny medel effort to cover juan that always out of position.. tbh i think rano is better than juan in CB position..
Q: the ball has to go thru medel before it reaches ranocchia and juan. right?
lol.. they not always have to go thru medel mate, do you remember how often we fuck from the wing, and then they cut in to rano and juan position!? and how many time that we see medel there instead of juan!?
what i’m saying is; medel is part of the problem. he is chaotic. the backline including medel lacked solidity,
Don’t bother reasoning with him. Some people are invulnerable to it.
if you don’t want to discuss with me it’s find mate, i have my opinion, you have your opinion.. respect it.. the only problem that i have with you is your first statement, you make it like our management did poorly in this mercato, just because they sign mello and sell kova!?
I’ll respect your opinion when you substantiate it with an argument rather than appealing to authority and dismissing mine with generalisations like: “Some people don’t understand football”. I made a argument for the redundancy of Medel’s role as he performs it, and you failed to address it.
lol.. you can check your comment and mine… i never said you don’t understand football.. i said you are smarter than mourinho because mourinho see the value of medel and you don’t..
Not directly no, but you did say that “some people here just dont understand the important of player like him”, effectively dismissing any opposing view, without providing a reason (again).
so do you think player like melo and medel is not important for us?
don’t put melo and medel in the same sentence man they’re different. a better question would be.
so do you think a player like de jong and medel is not important for a team like us?
de jong is not our player… the only DM in our team is melo mate.. you have to see thru my point… that DM is important for our team..
off course a DM is important but you have to know that there are diffrent types of DM. busquets is a DM, medel is a DM. both totally different players. you over-generalize things.
look as a team we have to prepare for many things.. we have a long seasons to play.. we can just give the burden to mello right!? do you understand what i’m trying to said to that jamson guy!? just the importance of DM role that played by medel and melo.. and you make it look like i’m saying medel is better than mello… did you even read what jamson guy write about melo!?
i can’t argue with you if you can’t understand the diffrence between a volante, a regista and a destroyer.
jamson himself has mentioned how you generalize things.
this is a little piece i’m leaving with http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/268851
bye.
okay bye..
look i know what is difference of volante, regista and destroyer.. i know your point but you fail to see my point.. and you debating with something that’s already clear and no need to debate if you understand my point .. … bye
Immune to reason man.
i gave him a full article explaining what are the types of DM. volane,regista, destroyer, and he kept rambling about the same shit. at the end i told him “read it then talk to me” lol
Seriously? Are you trolling? When have either of us made such a statement? No one is denouncing the importance of DM’s, and nothing in our arguments have suggested as much. In the case that you’re not trolling, I’d say you’re a kid, but you’ve already mentioned that you’re older than Thohir.
“If Mancini is worth his salary, he will sell Medel, play Melo if his formation demands it, and find a way to utilise the few talents we have left. Selling Kova and Hernanes for industrious types like Melo and Perisic suggests however that he is no thinker, and I expect another season of lifeless, expressionless football.” look you can have your opinion but you have find the right word to express it.. your statement make people think that you underestimate player like medel and melo.. and to criticize the coach is find but do it respectedly, not bashing them.. just my opinion..
Of course they can be. I have stated numerous times that midfielders with a primarily defensive edge can be of use to any team. I have nothing against defensive players. In fact, I prioritise a strong defense over a strong offense. However, the two are more intricately linked than people might expect, and in this vein, I’d argue Medel’s role, as he performs it, is an overall detriment to the team.
how can he’s not, when our midfield is full of shit.. now we have melo and kondogbia that better than what we got last year.. look, i doubt mancini will apply 4-2-3-1 right away.. maybe 4-3-3.. againts a team like milan and rube, medel will be usefull..
and what does medel offer that melo doesn’t?
and why we can’t have both of them!?
because that’s anti-football. a midfield is suposed to have balance.
anti-football is what media from overated BPL era call it… in italy it call cattenacio.. and inter winning team always play with cattenacio.. and mancini never have to play both of them together right!? it’s depend of what formation and who is the opponent..^^
and does mancini embody cattenacio ? ur dancing our things :0
mancini is more offensif minded than mourinho.. but he also very conservative.. when needed he also like to park the bus, that’s when we need medel..^^
aha. so you answered your own question. a coach like mancini would not play medel-melo together because it’s counter-productive. he is very offensive and always wants to have bodies up front and prides himself dominating opposition and also possession while having balance in midfield, in mancini’s mind it’s “attack is the best form of defense”. in some circumstances he might play them both. 🙂
lol.. so it took you for so long to understand me!? hahahaha.. wtf!?
for little kids like you. you have to walk them around and work with them. and at the end you answered your own questions. it’s called a rhetorical question.
cheers,
Forza inter.
edit: can see why jamson warned me
edit2: no offense intended when i called you kid. sorry.
little kid!? i’m older than thohir my friend.. i’m just try to explain the importance of player like medel and melo, that jamson guy seems to underestimated a lot..
well melo is different than medel. medel is poor even as a destroyer imo.
hhttp://www.teamsarena.com/engin.kartal/the-pirlo–mascherano-and-makelele–an-insight-into-the-role-of-the-number-6-1378-article
this is where the draw the line. please read the article above before replying.
medel=a poor mans destroyer
melo=volante.
it’ll give you some insight on things.
no offense intended when i called you kid. sorry.
look since i learn to play football in my younger day, i always believe what i see than just an article.. medel like i said in other post is not in melo level, but he will be usefull for us, that’s why we shouldn’t sell him.. at least for now.. we only have 2 pure DM in this team.. since mancini want to transform kondogbia to a player like toure.. so it’s good to have medel, in case something happen to mello..
you arrived at the conclusion that medel is not good enough technically to displace melo and thus he will be used as a sub in midfield and sometimes in defense. am i correct ?
so how can you not get my point after such a long discussion since lecco game mate.. since when i said medel is better than melo!?
The link is broken. I’ll re-post it below for anyone interested in developing their understanding of the issue.
http://www.teamsarena.com/engin.kartal/the-pirlo–mascherano-and-makelele–an-insight-into-the-role-of-the-number-6-1378-article
Very informative article btw.
grazie. most people wouldn’t know this.
you know we both in this conversation before, and i though you are the last guy to ignore the importance of DM like mello and medel.. looks like i’m wrong about you mate..
He’s younger.
and what does medel offer that melo doesn’t?
I just said it. Melo has just one, maybe 2 seasons left in him at his peak. In Medel, we’ve somebody for that role for a longer period of time.
let me rephrase. what does medel offer currently that melo doesn’t?
edit: younger doesn’t mean better.
no body said medel is better than melo… melo is an upgrade version of medel, just like i said in other post.. but it never harm to have both of them in our squad right!?
Also, I think he’ll be useful to give tactical flexibility….I agree with what ‘inter4ever’ said – he may not be a starter anymore but he can be effective if we want to ‘park the bus’??
aggree with you mate.. but some people here just dont understand the important of player like him.. maybe he will not be the best player on the world, but he has something that we neen in this team,,
even though it has, also for me, been disappointing with the sales of kova and hernanes i must state that the overall quality of the team is vastly improved.
most likely inter will play a 3-man midfield with kondog, medel and melo. as you said a rather defensive midfield. but, what you fail to realize is that these players allow the fullbacks to move high up the pitch. but, most importantly it allows a 3-man offense; which will most likely comprise of jovetic, icardi and perisic. a very offensive attack. and if you ask me the mid and offense balances each other.
regarding mourinho. he used more of a 4411 rather than a 4231. his team was based on catenacchio football and counter attacks. if you talk about defensive formations, mourinho was the master.
imo mancini has actually created a very competitive inter. and personally I’m ecstatic of what he has made and can’t wait for the results to come by. a 3.-5. position should be obtainable. next year there will be new players of better quality replacing lesser ones (i.e. santon, jesus, ranocchia, maybe telles, maybe ljajic).
the team has gained motivation, character, determination and a winning mentality under mancini. right now, i couldnt be more sure and proud to have mancini as a coach.
Finally a reasoned argument on this site rather than fan-boying. Unfortunately however, I don’t share your optimism. It’s not that I fail to realise the potential benefits of this formation, I just doubt these benefits will be realised with the players at Mancini’s disposal.
In the pursuit of width, a third of the players in our squad are full-backs (in a team with no Europe mind you), none of which are of the quality required to express the proposed gameplan. While I’m a fan on Santon, I can acknowledge that he is not the most offensively adept fullback and Telles is suffering from the usual post-mercato overrating by mindless Inter fans. If we are relying on them to drive our advances from defense, we’ll be in for a long year.
We also missed out on the forward wings. We over-committed to Perisic, effectively tying our hands, and overspent on a player who’s primary quality is industriousness. Llajic is an obvious talent, but I fear there is more to the story than we’re privy to. Roma are no fools. That role is usually ours. I don’t see why this should prove any different. We also lack depth in this position. Lamela and Lavezzi should have arrived instead of Perisic. Could have proved a similar outcome to Jovetic.
And regarding Mourinho, you are correct, he is the modern master of defensive tactics and I admire him for it. He expresses his gameplan to perfection and has evolved the DM (on numerous occassions) into what we see today with Matic. However, Medel (and to a lesser extent Melo) is no comparison. Medel is more akin to the outdated Makelele-role, but with less quality.
There is no evidence that the team now has character, or a winning mentality. We were impotent in the friendlies and in the opening two games. Fortunately Jovetic was there to bail us out. I expect we will continue to struggle to transition the ball with any purpose and play without identity.
“We over-committed to Perisic, effectively tying our hands, and overspent on a player who’s primary quality is industriousness.” you surely don’t know perisic yet my friend.. let’s wait for milan derby, you will see what i mean.. ^^
No I don’t think Perisic is a bad player by any means. He is incredibly versatile, always puts in a decent performance and will prove to be a useful acquisition for the gameplan Mancini wants to implement. I’m merely arguing that we played our hand too early and had no room to negotiate. Consequently we spent an amount usually reserved for genuine match-winners on a role player.
it take so long because we negotiate with them to find the win-win sollution.. and we got him because the player himself want inter and push for the deal to happen..
i will try to answer as good as i can:
full back: this must be the weakest link in inter. none of them are, in my mind, good or even proven. santon lacks drive and telles – i don’t know. seems like mancini will swap them with better material next summer. montoya does have some potential if he somehow learns the players movement and the tactics of serie a.
dept in full back: only stubbornness (from the players) and former stupidity of transfers (branca/mazzarri/etc) has made the players believe they can stay. its clear they’re not wanted. but, mancini are stable on his tactics and won’t let them play. i think he used them earlier for showcasing them.
perisic: based on numerous compilations, statistics and the game against norway i have created a view on this guy. he seems to have good vision, dribbling, crossing, shooting and he’s unselfish. on top of that he’s tall, uses both feet and are versatile. imo he’s a underrated coop. he will fit in everywhere in mancinis tactics. very good performer.
ljajic: never been a fan, and i need much convincing from he’s side. may be too inconsistent.
lamela: unsure here. was great in rome, but not tottenham. can’t really comment on behalf of what I’ve seen of him. i know he’s highly rated by most people here in the forum, but imo if we should get a left footed right-winger the answer lies in berardi. I’ve liked him since 2 years ago and i think this will be his season. very talented.
lavezzi: would without doubt be more or less perfect for the squad. a shame it didn’t work out. maybe in the winter or a free transfer? i think ljajic is temporary and lavezzi will later take his place.
lavezzi vs. perisic: no real difference between those two. they both got individual characteristics that will/would benefit the team.
medel: i share your view here. as a strong side he’s very aggressive – and thats good – but i feel he’s not a good (call it technical) tackler. he also lacks hight and a good mix of long/short passing. he’s got good ratings but he’s not effective in spreading the ball as I’ve seen from videoes of melo. medel´s (actually both of them) got a great attitude though, and thus will be important.
mentality: jovetic has already brought determination. he wants to win and you can see it in he’s goals. murillo and miranda are also shoving great enthusiasm and professionalism. this kind of development takes the longest time, but when its there it creates a special drive and flow of the game. example: look at man utd team under sir. ferguson. not the best players, but everyone has work ethic. they won several titles under him.
my opinion: as you said regarding transition, i fully agree. inter now lack a real trequartista. a shame to see hernanes go, as i thought he was important. you will see this in the next juve games unfortunately. but, more important the squad seems more or less complete now (exept treq.). the fit between the players and the attitude mancini can bring (work ethics/professionalism) will determine the outcome. maybe perisic and jovetic can act as wide trequartista´s(433)? and in a 4231 those two+ljajic will be creative. I’m at least very exited and think we will end up in between 3rd and 5th position. maybe also get to the semis in coppa.
anywho. sorry for this rather long answer, but i got really exited here 😛
No need to apologise for an excellent, reasoned response, no matter how long.
I agree with most of what you said and your description of Perisic is very encouraging.
great!
lets hope we can see perisic prove it against milan today:)
Get your point, but the real footballer Kovacic had a worse pass accuracy than Medel last season. Medel was in fact the best in the League. https://sempreinter.com/2015/06/02/serie-a-20142015-medel-leads-the-league-in/
You are a fool if you believe that Medel is a better distributer of the ball than Kovacic.
my gut feeling is that he will be phased out a bit this season.
i just don’t think he’ll be remotely as important as he was last season.
If Vidic and Rano are gotten rid of Medel may be alternated very effectively between defensive midfield and centre back (when 1 of Miranda – Murillo is injured/suspended). His versatility is an enormous asset
Your feeling was like Florentino Perez’s feeling about Makelele in 2003. This was what Perez said about Makalele according to Wikipedia:
“We will not miss Makélelé. His technique is average, he lacks the
speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of
his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header
of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.
Younger players will arrive who will cause Makélelé to be forgotten.”
And we knew what happened to Madrid after they sold Makelele.
different systems need different type of players. games like atalanta, udinese, chievo and juventus(home) were prime examples why medel doesn’t cut it in mancini’s system.
basing a teams whole season on a players departure is farcical. for all i know makelele was 10 times the player medel is. and he did good at chelsea because mourinho favors that kind of players. not so much with mancini.
Yes, it was not the only reason why real declined at that time. But many people believed that it was the main reason. Even people like Zidane also blamed Perez because he sold Makelele.
My point is that player like Medel or Makelele is very important, although many people underestimate their role.
why ignore the first paragraph of my post? it’s well documented that in mancini’s system medel is insignificant. maybe if we had mazzari.
if you actually saw those matches you would know why melo is brought to replace him.
being at good player doesn’t mean he’s FIT for mancini. shaqiri is a prime example!!!
I didn’t mean to ignore it. So, I have to give a reply for each paragraph. Okay, mate 😀
Yes, he is not irreplaceable, but I don’t think he is insignificant. We still need him to cover our four back. Yes, his passing is limited. But if you say Mancini do not favor player like him, then I don’t know what De Jong doing in Man City.
Btw, do not use too much “!”, it’s not good for your health. One is enough 😉
Cheers, mate.
Forza INTER!
“So, I have to give a reply for each paragraph” well. anybody with common sense would know that you reply to a comment not a specific paragraph.
it’s pretty apparent how your stance has changed from your comment!! and how is me using too much “!”* not good for my health. your sarcasm is almost as bad as your sense of reality. 🙂
*: it’s called an “Exclamation mark” .
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No, I still believe that player like Medel or Makelele is very important, although many people underestimate their role 🙂
It’s not sarcasm. I tried to be a good person. Maybe it was because cultural differences. In my place, using more than one “!” is like you are yelling at someone. Same thing if you use capital.
I know what it is called. I was just too lazy to type it.
Again spot-on. I despise this argument, that Medel’s ‘role’ is akin to Makele’s of old.
The Makele-role was engineered over a decade ago, for a team in the unique position of being filled with superstars, and in that case, it was successful. We however, do not have that luxury, and in the decade passed, the Makele-role has evolved dramatically. Such a player must now be able to hold the ball in possession, construct play from deep and control the tempo of the game. It is consequently among the more difficult roles on the field, and requires the talents of Matic, Busquets, Martinez, etc. to perform to expectation.
Medel is suited to a mid-table team which lacks cohesion and requires a stop-gap measure to provide some structure and solidity to the midfield. For a quality side, with an able coach, his role is redundant. I fear that Mancini’s reasoning behind Melo’s acquisition amounts to: “1 Medel wasn’t enough to shore up the midfield, perhaps 2 might”. A fallacious argument, but it seems to have convinced many people here.
imo melo is able to do that role. having both medel and melo is “overkill”
you know seeing the lecce game really opened my eyes on how a holding midfielder should act. melo always had a pass in mind, the general misconception about him is: purely a destroyer. which is wrong. his passing technique and intelligence are truly underrated and unappropriated. he is a much better fit in a 4-2-3-1 than medel is. he is much more than a destroyer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHCelaqhHHA
check out these videos plz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UMJAwfYpSI at 5:00 for the juicy parts
i view melo as the perfect partner to kondogbia.i’ve been watching hi,m for 2-3 years now and i wanted him at inter badly. his very direct style of passing is something we’re missing.
I agree, although to a lesser extent. Your observation that Melo has been unjustifiably dismissed as a ‘destroyer’ and nothing more is correct, and undoubtedly he presents an upgrade on Medel. For the time being, while Kondogbia develops into the rounded midfielder we all expect him to, Melo should prove a suitable partner.
However, having Medel in the squad worries me. I expect that we will continue to struggle moving the ball with any purpose, consequently permitting the opposition to recover the ball cheaply, putting extra strain on the defense. Mancini will be tempted to employ Medel alongside Melo to address this, as it is easier than addressing the underlying dysfunctionality of the midfield.
don’t get it confused, i don’t want medel next to melo either. only melo-kondogbia.
Yeah I know that’s what you meant, I’m just lamenting their eventual pairing for the reasons above and the lack of an obvious third midfielder. Who would you have beside Melo and Kondogbia?
melo(medel)-kondogbia(brozovic)
perisic(biabiany)-jovetic(guarin)-ljajic(palacio)
===========icardi(manaj)
that’s what i see the midifeld and attack being. for one game a week i think we have enough depth.
That is the formation I’d also like to see, but we have too little depth up-front and on the wings to sustain it. I also have little faith in our wing-backs to assist going forward and would therefore prefer to reinforce the middle with an additional midfielder. If Guarin could develop some consistency and adhere to the game plan, he could fulfill that role. After all, he has the talent to. What are your thoughts?
where would that leave jovetic(doesn’t play on the wings)?
It’s difficult. However, I believe Jovetic is sufficiently talented to play anywhere in the front half, whether as a trequartista behind Icardi (and the non-existent vice-Icardi), as the second striker in a front two (perhaps as a false 9) or on either flank beside Icardi.
Effectively, we’re limited by an absence of secondary strikers and by Icardi’s lack of versatility. For this reason I fear we might not get the best out of Jovetic, rather Mancini will exploit his versatility and play him where the formation demands to achieve balance.
Again, these accommodations only need to be made in response to other deficiencies in the team, namely at fullback and in the center of midfield. I’m hoping they’re properly addressed in the coming mercato, permitting Jovetic to play in his preferred role.
idk. to me i think the team is built to play 4-2-3-1
I agree, Mancini definately approached the Mercato with that formation in mind. For now at least, I just don’t think the depth or the balance is there.
https://sempreinter.com/2015/06/02/serie-a-20142015-medel-leads-the-league-in/
He wasen’t a destroyer last season, he was our brain our best passer the league’s best passer in fact. https://sempreinter.com/2015/06/02/serie-a-20142015-medel-leads-the-league-in/
your logic: someone passes alot= “league’s best passer”. …..
Wow! You are so ignorant that you diden’t even bother to read the article. Most of his passes are going forward, they have a signifiicant lenght to them and all this combined with the higest % of hit passes.
don’t resort to profanity little kid. your mother should’ve swallowed you.
all these stats are pointless in deciding how good of a passer someone is. now if you really wanna bring meaningful stats. http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#serie_a/2014/2015/mirko_valdifiori/137/137/15682/462/p|serie_a/2014/2015/gary_medel/177/137/1924/0/p#successful_passes/chances_created/key_passes/assists#total
Should learn the meaning of profanity before using it little kid. You justified my statement of beeing ignorant when you posted the mother bullshit. I could have clearified that he is the most accurate passer in the league, but with your logic a cdm should have most key passes and assist to be considered good. So I won’t bother with you, have a good night.
You better not frickin sell him!